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“Christianity has a male feel about it” – John Piper

11 Feb

John Piper

Look at the structure of our churches and you will agree that Christianity has a male feel about it.

John Piper, seen by some as a “pioneer” of the New Calvinism, suggests that this is the way it was meant to be. Pastors Semmler, Kleinig and Pfeiffer would concur.  They may be right in noticing the male domination within Christianity, but they are wrong in telling us that it should always be.

Here’s the language that Piper uses (reported by Shirley Taylor in bWe Baptist Women for Equality’s Blog)

It’s the feel of a great, majestic God, who by his redeeming work in Jesus Christ, inclines men to take humble, Christ-exalting initiative, and inclines women to come alongside the men with joyful support, intelligent helpfulness, and fruitful partnership in the work.

Shirley Tayor responds in her post:

What nonsense.

What is the humble, Christ-exalting initiative that men take?  There is nothing humble about telling women that men are the big he-man leaders – like Christ, no less – while the women are their sideline helpers. That is humble? Admitting that women are equal would be humble leadership, but he is not willing to be that Christ-like.

Read more.

In referring to another exclusive ministry group, Shirley Taylor comments,

If they had been studying the Bible, and read what what on Jesus’ mind as we see in the New Testament, they would have seen that masculinity and femininity was not Jesus’ concerns.  His concern was how people mocked God by being overly pious when in their hearts they were doing something else, and how they treated their fellow man, and their fellow women.

Those who lead the resistance to women’s ministry, in their piety and devotion, have created a huge, castle-like graven image with theology that reflects nothing of Jesus’ embrace of the powerless, marginalised and oppressed, including women.  Wafting down from the castle we hear the new self-serving emphasis on ‘fatherhood’, ‘male God’, ‘Catholic unity’.

Such an approach does nothing to strengthen Lutheran unity. In fact, by Church leadership refusing a fair discussion towards women’s ordination, supporters are forced to consider other options.

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5 Comments

Posted by on February 11, 2012 in sociology, theology, women's ordination

 

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5 responses to ““Christianity has a male feel about it” – John Piper

  1. PIchi

    February 11, 2012 at 1:19 am

    Got it right, Shirley.
    Sorry, John, you missed the mark totally.

     
  2. firstkitten

    February 12, 2012 at 1:52 am

    a huge castle-like graven image completely lacking in grace.

     
  3. Katie and Martin

    May 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    I’ve just revisited this post. His assertion is just absurd. He’s completely lost in his own hubris. Power is such an insidious, corrupting thing – we forget to remind our leaders about this.

     
  4. Cullinary Vestments

    May 6, 2012 at 4:58 am

    Did you see Piper’s other suggestion that we need to make a kitchen apron that looks like a liturgical vestment – I think it should only come in white so it matches the appliances though…..

     

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