LCA Pastors Discuss Women’s Ordination With Not a Woman In Sight

08 Jul
Huffington Post July 8th 2015 - Attributed to

Discussing Women in Society – Huffington Post July 8th 2015 – Attributed to

“The conference was reportedly held in 2012 at the University of Qassim and was apparently attended by representatives of 15 countries. …The picture features row upon row of men in traditional keffiyeh and white thobes.” Huffington Post

Most rational people in the West would agree that such absolute exclusion of women demonstrates a misogyny contrary to human rights and destructive to society and religion.  Without women’s voice Arab countries will continue to treat women poorly and treat them as children who must be accompanied by a male family member when out in public – no drivers’ license, no international travel without a male family companion.

LCA pastors are currently meeting in Hahndorf, South Australia without any female voice.  It’s a funny old world isn’t it?  We are able to hold two disparate points of view without any cognitive dissonance.  While we condemn Arab society for its harsh treatment of women, the LCA, through its male pastors, is doing a similar thing.

The LCA has been discussing this issue for around 30 years in a country where women were among the first in the world to receive the vote. Yet, still we cling to this strange notion that we must cling to MIssouri Synod sectarian theology, while other most Western Lutheran churches already ordain women.  Strangely in the LCA there are women chaplains, women adult educators within Equip (adult education for educators in the Lutheran school system), women elders and so on.

It is time!  If the LCA is going to cease being a magnet for those dispossessed of their conservatism from other churches, thus entrenching our inability to adapt to the times, we need to reflect our intention of engaging with the world by creating policies that demonstrate compassion, integrity and justice.


Posted by on July 8, 2015 in sociology


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3 responses to “LCA Pastors Discuss Women’s Ordination With Not a Woman In Sight

  1. John Miller

    July 8, 2015 at 1:53 pm


    1. Get a congregation to request that the LCA conduct this year’s Annual General Meeting, as it is obliged to do under the articles of the SA Association’s Act. and place the matter of the ordination of women on the agenda. If the LCA plays funny buggers, ask the Supreme Court to enforce the Association’s Act. (Read the Act.)

    When you’ve done that, report back.

    2. Get a congregation to prepare a notice of motion for the next LCA Synod to the effect ‘that members of the clergy be stripped of their right to vote’. It is most unusual in this country for the staff to have a vote at a general meeting.

    When that’s been done, report back!

    This move would then clear the way for the parishes (Large M members) to decide how they want their association (church) run.

    It would also clear the way for the Church Council to be run by the Members, with the President being a member of the laity. That would get rid of the ‘bishop’ nonsense. It’s pompous.

    3. Organise an unofficial general meeting of (large M) Members and exclude the staff – and see how they feel about that. I think you’d probably get a good turnout.

    Whilst the LCA clergy is not running quite as amok as the Catholic clergy (who have the sole say in how their association (church) is run, it’s time to take off the ecclesiastical handbrake.

    Imagine, a church where the paid up (large M Members decide how their organisation is run.


    I’m still waiting for Fritz Hebart to draft a motion rescinding the Blaess-Hebart misogyny statement.

    Regards and blessed wishes

    John Miller

  2. lcamyopinion

    July 8, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    4. Have the congregations that want to, call women pastors right now. Then see if the LCA can get up a 2/3 majority to do anything about it.

    Great Pic btw. I think its an old pastors conference. Perhaps 1996? I recognise myself in the third row, 4th from the right. I left my alb home by mistake. (so embarrassing)

  3. John Miller

    July 8, 2015 at 10:14 pm


    Good one.

    I hadn’t thought of importing women pastors. What are the rules?


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